CAD have already covered… NKF. Then religious organizations. Renci (Bhuddism), Churches and MEGA Churches and now Temple… I guess the only religion which is muslim have not done any wrong doings, yet. Hopefully it remains that way. May Allah protect us all. Amin.
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http://www.reverbnation.com/masya

Wearemasya,
Well, there is still time; they will sooner or later. LMAO.

@ jeffreypeter01
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Hopefully not. If we are clean. I guess u mite consider converting to muslim.

wearemasya,
Are you ok? Is this how one prays for protections? Hope you are joking?

Have already declared them (MEGA Churches and Temple) guilty?

wearemasya,
Hope you are not praying for them to be found Guilty! lol!

how could a guy alone handle so many funds??!! i should have set up a chairty temple too!!

what happpen? feel so disappointed and uncomfortable to hear about it.

Hey All. I’m sorry if I sound as if I’m judging them. I’m not saying that they are guilty. But leaves wont move if threre’s no wind… Just wait and see lah. And 1 more thing… I’m not promoting Islam… Like how Christians like to approach in Interchange and MRT stations.

wearemasya,
What does Christians approaching in Interchange and MRT stations has got to do with this articles?
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BTW,
What difference are there between them and you when you asked jeffreypeter01
in your reply; “Hopefully not. If we are clean. I guess u mite consider converting to muslim.”(on July 23, 2010 at 12:51 pm)
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Please, have consideration for other beliefs before celebrating their downfall!

Another scandal to tarnish the reputation of a near clean Singapore society. The modus operandi of this Indian temple sage is no different from those reported previously by the other major religious organisations. Why the lateness to pin down those who compromised with the processes of good temple governance. Did the team from the Commissioner of Charity Organisation do a thorought job in view of the number of similar cases involving other major religious bodies.? Something is wrong somewhere.

I think COC should audit all religion groups. Big or small. Corruption investigation should not be within big mega churches but also small ones as there are usually more discreet and lower profile which doesn’t imply that they is no personal embezzlement.
It would be helpful for COC and CAD to set certain guidelines when it comes to operating the religion organisation and also giving guidelines for bookkeeping. All Churches or Chinese, Hindu Temples and Malay mosque should be inform that they need to keep a proper bookkeeping since this is a good example of no proper bookkeeping and how does one account for money comes in and money goes out to who’s pocket.

I am embarrassed… I was just wondering if Armugam is going to pay for his consequences. I know so many people who have the money and the influences of people who are up there(People with big post) doing all kinds of nonsenses and still being able to get away without any trouble. They break all that rules and regulations of Singapore but never in trouble. But for people who are not well off or do not know influential people would be in a huge trouble with tones of consequences when they make the same mistakes. This is damn bloody sad… Many people make vows when they pray and make donations hoping that their sorrows in their lifes would be reduced. If that idiot is going take all that money for himself, then he is only taking all the pain and miseries of those who made the donations.I hope this idiot would be thrown into the jail for years and be canned. Just taking him out of his post is not enough..I would like to see how is he or his family going to walk down the road or face their friends or family for his embarrassing act… GOOD LUck with that.

Now he is caught. More is yet to come…. GOD would show everyone who is the MAN. U cheat him and u get it BIG TIme. GOD don’t let him go easy.

Also CAD or COC should stipulate a compulsory yearly audit regulations for ALL the religious body. If any of these religious group does not have proper accounting system, they should engage a accounting firm to help them to do so. COC/CAD should appoint auditing firm to audit all these organisation so that one can check if there is any telltale sign of funds going out of the organisation for wrongful usuage or personal gains. When the organisation has cleared and pass the auditing process as appointed by COC/CAD, this goes to show the company has a clean record and are able to maintain the standards required by COC/CAD.

wearemasya on July 23, 2010 at 12:51 pm
@ jeffreypeter01
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Hopefully not. If we are clean. I guess u mite consider converting to muslim.
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wearmasya,
Very unlikely; Aruah nenek saya ada lah Muslimin, saudara saya adah juga Muslim. My girlfriend is a Muslimin from malaysia and she is trying even the use of psychological baiting LMAO- I am trained to identify and resist such: saya tak. The reason is theology and logic. In order to convert me; there MUST be reason as opposed to emotion(s)/emotionalism and facts. To date, no one have been able to produce an iota of fact to warrant my change in persuation.
You could try if you like; I’m the guy at Changi Carpark 7- da homeless and jobless; well equipted or call me at 81948998 email- jeffrey_peter@yahoo.com

Even for small temples/mosque/churches, a small commitee need to be involve where money needs to be accounted for.Money collected should always be counted and accounted for in the eyes of the commitee.One can be corrupted but having a committee, the chances of corruption will be minimised. Again proper accounting needs to be accounted for as well. There are many small accounting firms that proper simple accounting services for companies/organisation. All these smaller temples/churches/mosque may want to consider engaging their services. All it takes is just one accountant to help you do simple recording of book keeping.

There always cases of some franatics who used the name of God or religion for personal gain. Kudos for Hindu Endowment Board (HEB) for pointing out the discrepancies. Hope CAD continue their good job in ensuring religion organization and charity keep their accounting in order and clean.
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Our average life span as human being is only 75. Most of us lived less than 100 years old. Even the riches people only eat 3 meal a day and sleep in a 6 ft bed. Living simple and cut out the excess can be joyous way of life too. We can be happy and free of worries from our possession.
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On May 24th, 1931, Mother Teresa took her vows of poverty, (to remain without possessions), chastity, (promising to be pure in mind and body) and obedience (discipline).

I think COC has recognise the importance of providing some guidelines to charities organisation be it big or small. I am very sure out of 10 temples/mosque/churches, all 10 will have discrepancies in their financial statements. Charity or religious organisation should read this, go to MYCS there is some guideline on drafting financial statements. Sorry I did not provide any link.
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MCYS MEDIA RELEASE NO: 43/2009
DATE OF ISSUE: 23/12/2009
ACCOUNTING STANDARDS COUNCIL AND COMMISSIONER OF CHARITIES TO SEEK PUBLIC VIEWS ON EXPOSURE DRAFT OF CHARITIES ACCOUNTING STANDARD
The Accounting Standards Council (ASC) and the office of the Commissioner of Charities (COC) will be seeking views from the charity sector, accounting professionals and the public on the Exposure Draft of Charities Accounting Standard (CAS) and its application.
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btw I think Mother Theresa is an amazing lady.

Discrepancies and corruption is different altogether. Forging payment vouchers is not discrepancy, it is corrupted.

@ jeffreypeter01 on July 23, 2010 at 2:58 pm

wearemasya on July 23, 2010 at 12:51 pm
@ jeffreypeter01
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Hopefully not. If we are clean. I guess u mite consider converting to muslim.
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wearmasya,
Very unlikely; Aruah nenek saya ada lah Muslimin, saudara saya adah juga Muslim. My girlfriend is a Muslimin from malaysia and she is trying even the use of psychological baiting LMAO- I am trained to identify and resist such: saya tak. The reason is theology and logic. In order to convert me; there MUST be reason as opposed to emotion(s)/emotionalism and facts. To date, no one have been able to produce an iota of fact to warrant my change in persuation.
You could try if you like; I’m the guy at Changi Carpark 7- da homeless and jobless; well equipted or call me at 81948998 email- jeffrey_peter@yahoo.com
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Huh! I really don’t get what u trying to say.

@ jeffreypeter01 on July 23, 2010 at 2:58 pm
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Hey Bro. One thing for sure. There’s no such thing as hard-sell in Islam.

Well not to justify ……. may be it is a phenomenon ….! Man-kind is prone to mistakes & wrong-doings …. therefore wherever there is man-kind there are mistakes & wrong-doings. Or, wherever mistakes & wrong-doing are found there is man-kind. [No man-kind is free from error!]
Only the same man-kind is capable to realise the mistakes and be corrected. The community of man-kind is responsible to get the correction done through justice; to pro-create a better world of tomorrow.

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Hello WEAREMASYA ,

Are you nuts ?? What makes you think that by being a MUSLIM you are clean ?? Your statement :”Hopefully not. If we are clean. I guess u mite consider converting to muslim.” Every religion has it’s GOOD & BAD . It’s in us to take and nurture the GOOD.Just because the chairperson in an INDIAN temple has been BAD, does not mean that everybody INDIAN is bad !! YOU should be investigated by the authorities and probably go for some cleansing at IMH ! Just keep your racist remarks to yourself and get the HECK out of this place !It’s time for U to read the Newspapers and realise some man of your kind , have also faulted and faulted BIG time too !! There were cases where young girls were raped !!! So who is clean now !!!

I hope all the religious group get audited and check. The only time CAD will do their job is when there is complains. It will be a tiring job for them to go round checking all the religious group.
Therefore I think yearly auditing of all religious body should be make mandatory. I hope COC make this compulsory. We won’t know how clean others are. No complains does mean no problems.

typo error: No complains does not mean no problems.

If Arumugam Sivalingam was paid ‘More then Peanuts’ he would not have done this!
All organisation should follow this rule!
‘More Pay, for Zero corruption!’

No Church/Temple is fitting here in this country, our government never earn any pennies on those and never pay taxes. Don’t ask why now we are suffering all these floodings, God is angry at us. It doesn’t matter which religion you are from, there is no God in this sinners land, only MONEY.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Land of prostitutes and Gamblers.

Dont put the Blame on God!
That is what ‘they’ want us to believe!
It is ‘man’s’ fault, simple as that!

When it comes to MONEY….it’s regardless of Race, Language or Religion heheheheeee

According to my mum, she went to Waterloo street Guan Yim Temple today….the temple is not accepting any donations at the moment heheheheeee

@wearemasya on July 23, 2010 at 12:28 pm

Bukit Timah Tua Peh Kong Temple last year kena already, the fellow kena called up by CAD and then hang himself heeheeee Case closed heeheeee

@ wearemasya on July 23, 2010 at 4:49 pm,

You say : Hey Bro. One thing for sure. There’s no such thing as hard-sell in Islam.

Well let me put it to U straight on your face : There is no such thing as JIHAD against innocent people among the other religions !

wearemasya on July 23, 2010 at 12:28 pm
CAD have already covered… NKF. Then religious organizations. Renci (Bhuddism), Churches and MEGA Churches and now Temple… I guess the only religion which is muslim have not done any wrong doings, yet. Hopefully it remains that way. May Allah protect us all. Amin.

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Haven’t you read about the full-time national serviceman Muhammad Fadil Abdul Hamid who had absorbed militant jihadist ideas through the Internet and made online contact with radical cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki, expressing a desire to fight overseas???

Discrepancies and corruption is everywhere & one should not be discriminated for their race or religion. No religion or GOD tells a man to do wrong or think evil. How would you feel if i were to say that Muslims have not been caught yet for any wrong doings because they are busy plotting plans for their next terrorist attack or preparing bombs?
Again, i would like to emphasize that i’ve got tonnes of Muslim, Chinese, Indian, Buddhist & Christian friends out there, who strongly believe in brotherhood & integrity!

People who cheat on innocent people’s money should be seriously dealt with. By the way, investigations are still ongoing & judgement has not been given yet, so we shall not jump onto conclusion before knowing the full picture.

Peace!!!

It is a sure thing that crime is involve here,what do you say about forging payment vouchers? More to reveal.

@ wearemasya on July 23, 2010 at 4:49 pm,

You said : There’s no such thing as hard-sell in Islam.
But there is hard-forcing a family manbers to be one !
Look into your faith history, POW had been forced to be one !

@ wearemasya , no one can claimed himself is clean ! Only God knows ! You clean and others are dirty !?
Now investigation are still going on, did they convicted already ?!
Do you know the 2 most corrupted countries in Asia are from where ?? Look yourself in the mirror before your judges others ! )

I use to see this arumugam sivalingam guy walking in and out of this temple as though the temple belongs to his father or him and the way he treats those employees in the temple is really dispeckable. I have been watching this bastard for a long period of time. The best part of it is that the management and Employees of the temple are aware of what this bastard has been doing for a long time but none of them had the balls to report to the authorities concern. WHY????????

Well Done ‘amahalso ‘ … U’v hit the that creep ‘wearemasya ‘ right on target !!! Where is that creep !! In Hiding after sustaining all the insults !! So very LIKE …..

Every function held in the temple he will always be the VIP or GOH and he was all along thinking that he was getting the shower of blessing of Lord SivaKrishna from the priest but actually not knowing that what he was receiving was all the CURSE for his wrongdoings. God is not blind nor stupid arumugam. He has been watching you for a long time bloody begger. There is no doubt that this guy has swindled large sum of money belonging to the temple and this must be reclaimed from him. he should be charged for bankruptcy, sell his car and houses and return these monies back to the temple fund. Those who presigned the cheques must be removed from the committee too.

To: COC
Hi, after the string of distrust against most of the major religious groups, have you got any suggestions to prevent them? Especially when loose $$ like donations are involved? No? Here’s mine for you:
COC can set up the donation boxes in all the organisations under your charge. Every week/month, have a commercial police escort the boxes to your office. Please have the organisations’ accountants and a COC-officer present while the $$ is counted.

Yours Sincerely, (or is it “Faithfully”?)
suahku